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I've seen other games getting tons of money by using this technique as it encourages a lot of people to buy diamonds.
Yes, the price would be less but they would sell on that one event MUCH more diamonds then they sell now on regular base.
Okey and to make yourself more beliavable i like to hear to what games exatly you base your information and i like to also see somethink valid proofs and not jsut your opinions since i doubt you see how much people use moneys on onlinegames atleast i havent |
You already get 1 box worth 25000, so you get 25000 worth diamonds and as a bonus 25k chest you start sound rly greedy here demainding for 2 boxes. These sale days only hurts admins money flow becose people will try delay to this day and in worst case they dont have need to donate at all when sale day comes.. you keep makin these topics wanting cheaper diamonds if you can afford em dont buy em.
These 1 moment discounts only hurt admins and dont benefit em at all.. maybe they can make it 1-2 times a year but daily or monthly sounds jsut ridicilious dumb in business side of this.. becose fact is anyone will jsut wait for these weekly sale days if they get discounts, nobody have that hurry.
and ofc everyone gives +1 becose they want cheaper diamonds lol, so quite pointless vote, so +1 for free diamonds -1 for the idea from admins wiew of thinks, its just crappy idea if you want your idesas to be executed admins need to be benefiting from it financialy. and you should respect bit more that diamonds are 2x more cheaper than they we at com baciacly but even that isnt enough you to buy em so how low they should go give a number..
And you don't get that this is marketing, this is what happens around the world in every large corporation. This is how they make profit?
They don't have to it daily, I did not said that anywhere did I?
Once every 2 months would be fine.
As miker_92 said;
-people who are buying this still do
-people who are not bouying this usually save some money and wait for discount.
Those who buy a lot of diamonds will continu doing this even when there is no 'event'. Those who refuse to buy diamonds will try to save up for this one time event.
You just don't get it, you're always negative, thats whats wrong with you. They will make A LOT profit with actions like this, their profit would double. The money they would see that one time every two months will be enough to sustain the server for months!
These 1 moment discounts only hurt admins and dont benefit em at all..
You really don't have any idea how business works right?
Lets see it this way, lets assume that of the 100% people that play this game, only 20% uses diamonds. Another 20% would want to use diamonds but would rahter use their money somewhere else. 40 % of the players haven't used diamonds so far. And 20% will NEVER use diamonds.
So on regular base LORDSWM sells to these 20% players that buy diamonds every now and then.
With thsese actions, they will have GUARANTEE income from those 20% diamond users. Then because of this action those other 20% players who were having second doubts about this will reconsider buying diamonds.
Lets assume 15% of them is willing to buy at least 10 diamonds at this event.
So we're on 35% diamond users. Then from these 40% players who've never used diamonds before, they will notice that on such an event the diamonds are really "cheaper" and some of them will reconsider to do a one time donation. After all, whats 10 euro when you can have 10% - 15% discount?
So at this one day, admins will have about 40 - 45% players that bought diamonds, thats about double of their normal sell?
Yeah there will be players that will wait untill next event to buy diamonds. So what? If this happens ever couple months? Again -people who are buying this still do. With or without event. |
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Ok thats how far I go. If you can't be polite and discuss something like normal people do then you will be ignored. I ask all the readers of this not to respond at further messages of Napalmi. He said his things, I understand them and tried to explain my points. He doesn't care about my idea, he just wants to act like a 'bad boy'.
Btw those game I referred to where, Travian and Knights Online. |
| LOL you are NOT giving any FACts you are only guessing if you wouldnt be talkin only for your own good you would have proofs wouldnt ya? i have btw played travian for years and there never where discounts lol.. |
| I understand them and tried to explain my points. He doesn't care about my idea, he just wants to act like a 'bad boy'aha becoe you cant defence your idea you stars insulting me, i can say hey if you reduce diamnonds price by 10 preent i think we have 75 precent more donators but it isnt based to anythink, you also are saying that travian is giving discounts witch i havent seen but where have you seen all the donated gold data or are you jsut basin this to some guy you know how once donated but normally didnt? |
Any regular discount will most likely hurt income. People who previously were regular donors will wait for the discount. You need to make sure you get enough new donors to offset the drop in income from the old donors getting a discount. I can't see that.
Special offers to entice new donors might work. Some examples.
TGIs being 40 diamonds for 1 week
Diamond upgrades being half price for 1 week.
Every diamond upgrade bought, comes with 2 chests of abundance.
Those kind of offers might entice new donors. Also, the first time it is done, there needs to be no promise of it happening again. |
TGIs being 40 diamonds for 1 weekbut isnt tha bit nfair for people already donated their tgis an they didnt even get any boxes lol..
Those kind of offers might entice new donors. Also, the first time it is done, there needs to be no promise of it happening again. but thats good one tough new donators will donate only once thats more likely serveice for players and not protitable financialy |
pecial offers to entice new donors might work. Some examples.
TGIs being 40 diamonds for 1 week
Diamond upgrades being half price for 1 week.
Every diamond upgrade bought, comes with 2 chests of abundance.
Yes indeed, this are the things that attract people. And indeed,
Those kind of offers might entice new donors. Also, the first time it is done, there needs to be no promise of it happening again.
This is a must if they wanted it to work! |
i have btw played travian for years and there never where discounts lol..
Even I played travian and they had a lot of discounts!!! :o:o
"Buy today for 20 euro gold and recieve 25% extra"
Lol man that was like every holiday there? Did you really played travian or just joking about it? |
Sorry pall(napalmi) but travian did give discounts :P. And look how they developed :D.
TGIs being 40 diamonds for 1 week
This would be interesting? :o |
The "isn't that unfair to people who bought it before" is relevant to all discounts. Should I go to the computer store and complain that my $1000 computer is now selling for $200? Of course not.
People who regularly donate do so, either because they need the competitive edge regular donations give them, or they feel an obligation to give the game designers money due to liking the game (the sentiment behind Shareware).
Special Offers will not make someone a regular donor, so you should focus on getting the people who don't donate to do that one off donation. If they think the discount will come around again, they may wait until the next discount? If they think there wont be another discount, go the panic buying. More sales for the game devs.
I'll use myself as a case in point. In the minor tournament I saw a demon Faction level 3 to my Demon faction level 5. I thought finally I could win one. His temptresses (a DU unit at my level) controlled my hellhorses, battle pretty much over. The DU unit was devastating.
if I saw a 1/2 price DU special, I'd take it. As I'm 3/4 of the way through lvl 11, I would not pay full price for them though. |
| The "isn't that unfair to people who bought it before" is relevant to all discounts. Should I go to the computer store and complain that my $1000 computer is now selling for $200? Of course not.yes but tgis worth is same always a rules say so someone get 550k with 40 diamonds and 4 boxes and some get it with 80 diamonds.. |
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Well napalmi if it is done well it doesn't hurt admins.
The best way I think is to do such discounts but randomly.
Gamigo used to do this every 2-3 months on some holidays, special events like Euro 2012, Olympics and stuff. People who were buying premium stuff are doing this regularly but when It was near some special time they were waiting for discount to get MORE (they still paid the same amount of money).
So Gamigo didn't lose anything.
People who didnt like to buy premium stuff started to save some money and use it during this discounts. Thanks to that Gamigo got more money during such times.
So where it is any loss for admins? Everywhere i see such events they are always doing more of them. |
even play market for android phones n almost every facebook game offers some discount for donaters or half of the facebook games would have closed by now...
they could use the buy more get more technique or perhaps they could offer some incentive for first time donaters...
mayb lik some random element for the first 10 diamonds donated... |
Well napalmi if it is done well it doesn't hurt admins.
The best way I think is to do such discounts but randomly.
Gamigo used to do this every 2-3 months on some holidays, special events like Euro 2012, Olympics and stuff. People who were buying premium stuff are doing this regularly but when It was near some special time they were waiting for discount to get MORE (they still paid the same amount of money).
So Gamigo didn't lose anything.
People who didnt like to buy premium stuff started to save some money and use it during this discounts. Thanks to that Gamigo got more money during such times.
So where it is any loss for admins? Everywhere i see such events they are always doing more of them
are you working on gamigo or are you jsut guessing nobody has show any proofs just saying this woprked for em but how you can know did it? |
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I have another idea which would likely not hurt admins income nor destabilise economy but encourage those who did not donate at all:
First time diamond buyers would get 20 more diamonds if donation is at least 80 USD.
This way those who donate first time for TGI, would not spend less than normal 80 USD and would have 20 diamonds left to exchange on gold or would buy some more diamonds to get diamond upgrades in castle. |
im sorry 2x cheaper?
earlier they were 10 diamonds for $10 paypal .. now its 10 diamonds for $9 paypal (USD) so its 10% cheaper not half the price
but yes .. weekly is not good for business ... once a month .. maybe .. offer would last only 1 day or maybe just 12 hours though .. not too bad .. give like a 10% discount on price .. make 30% more people buy em thinking they are getting a lucky deal ... this is what companies do in real life too.
1 extra box --> no way thats gonna happen
in fact as a business point of view ... remember bigger is better
people tend to think a discount even a small one on big amount of things is great so something like buy 50 diamonds get 10% off , 100 diamonds 15% off will definitely attract more people |
