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Authorwhats up with the thieves????????
2009 TGI cost only 30k

u mean 300k*
There are hardly 600-800 people online at most at times.

Out of which I doubt even 10% have a TGI. So the probability of being ambushed is hardly anything . . .
Yes, so rude that admins made you lose 460k gold in roulette :(

Not rude about that. I didn't say anything about price, did I? Why are you bringing unnecessary quarrels here. I had said about ambushes giving good fsp/exp ratio earlier while it is gone now . So earlier players had got better FSP while playing TG while now players get less and face lvl up problems. I never complained anything about price here and I started playing roulette after GU 2 and TGI remained at 1 mil and also due to a big maths error . I thing you just want to quarrel with me .
Nope Wise, i hear 30k at 2008

And i see for 300k at 2009

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Aka, i think we have more than 10%, but old players stop play, so... is very very rare be ambushed.
"Experience granted for TG caravan combats has been doubled."
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1868152
i think this update ruin TG guild, Now Like Survival Tournament many TG holders stopped to ambush because of fast level up. Reaching TG4 in lvl8 is almost impossible now.
Got ambushed twice recently.
if you see battle list, you will always see some thieves there.

if you not ambushed, maybe you are lucky.

thief number is decreasing because higher price of tgi (in other side, wage is lower). and also, we cant "rent" tgi anymore. i believe most of old player get tgi from "rent".
I stopped ambushing because I sold my thieving gear to build up my Demon castle. Passing up the new gray hunts and ridiculously easy new mercenary quests is, well, ridiculous...

Also, I can't believe people are still scared of gaining levels...
you cannot ambush people of same military clan you are member so this also reduce probabilities
Also, I can't believe people are still scared of gaining levels...
I've always found this ridiculous. So what if I gain 15k xp from caravans? I always found leveling up a good thing. You get new units and it makes hg/mg easier. I admit I did level camp level 12-13 for awhile, but that was because there weren't any players at those levels 2 years ago. It was hard to ambush or get hunt assists. How many players have waited 1.5 hours for an ambush?
for 28,30
i think people who are building there LG don't like fast lvl up,it is too pain for a player reach lvl14 with LG5 or less, that's why they hate ST,TG even CG
for Mohini:
LG is not an issue if people stuck with only using min arts. It is impossible for min art costs to exceed enrolling income.
@31 no is cuz there is old level campers who have stats like 8,5,5,5,5,5 factions at level 9 and win all group battle
@32 wrong you assume the battle after 10 enroll will be always win
for 4themassive:
Actually I'm assuming people are battling several times per enroll. If people are only doing 1 battle per 10 enroll, then their income would be much higher anyway.
@ vishnus
I'm sorry if my post seemed like it was for quarreling. In this thread, all I saw from you was that one comment... And it 'seemed' from that comment that you were complaining because Admins had caused TGI prices to increase :)



@ Shaocan
I hear 2009 TGI cost only 30k, 2009, 300k, now 1.1 milion you really belive the price will decrease? hahahahahahaha
That's because TGI mechanics were essentially retconned after the first grand Update. The drastic increase in prices was a direct result of this:

11) New Thieves' Guild Mechanics to be introduced since December, 1st. The Guild invitation will only be given out to thieves once, to those who achieve the 5th level in the Guild. Those who have already received an Invitation at Guild level 2, will not receive any more invitations.

If TGI market stabilizes, there is a chance that prices will drop in the future. Maybe as low as 800k even...
LG is not an issue if people stuck with only using min arts. It is impossible for min art costs to exceed enrolling income.

I agree. But the problem is that a lot of people want to become thieves (like me) so they have to enroll ridiculous amounts.
@ Shaocan
It was speculated admins did this because TGI prices dropped too much. At the end of 2008 prices were above 600k and within a few short months into beginning of 2009 prices dropped down to 300k. The reason why it didn't go even faster was because of the vast rental market for TGIs. TGI rentals dropped down to 1k gold per day. If things continued it was easy to see that TGIs would drop below 200k (80 diamonds x 2.5k gold) and then proceed down to 0 gold (when there are more TGIs than players).
Not only that,
also the constant complaint from people that rented out their TGI and the other guy stopped playing or did not return the TGI. Then the other guy would be blocked but there was no refund for the player that did rent the TGI out.
now they are just over 1 mil, takes some time, but eventually you ll reach it
for Sven91:
And you forget the scammers who "rent" and don't return on purpose.
Many people lost their TGIs; myself included.
This topic is long since last update and considered obsolete for further discussions.

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