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AuthorAre Knights REALLY that strong?
At combat level 12 as a Knight I received more troops.

Though as a Knight and partially a Wiz for some time, yes, we are being discriminated quite a bit. XD

*that's just me fishing for some mercy from the general public :P*
At level 13, i've receive one extra griff and 3 more xbows.
At level 13, i've receive one extra griff and 3 more xbows.

hmmm.. I see u can get max 23 Grifs now, which is same for me at lvl 14 (?). So that means the ones without any troops increment is Cl 14 & CL15. Which also means you won't get anymore Grifs than what you already have now when you level up, bud, while all other factions get extra Tier 4s when they level up. :/
yes, knights are strong
So, Jedi, it seems that your only way out is to level-down. :p
Jedi, it seems that your only way out is to level-down
Or switch factions? :)
"The strongest faction is always the one you are not."
-sorry, I forgot who always says that.
hmm...in GB knights is always welcome. I wonder why? maybe because they are so strong:D
"The strongest faction is always the one you are not."

No difference between level 13 and 14 because you didn't level up as faction. Needless to remind you why I said that. But, be happy, now there is faction level 10. So, hurry up and get your extra-troops! I don't suppose you want troops from both combat and faction level. Or, do you?
for CGSMCMLXXV:
And I don't suppose you want troops from combat level and get chance of dealing critical damage (5%+4%*[Skill level]) from faction level. Or, do you?
@29:

I can get how much maximum critical damage? Against what defense? With how much HP's for how many EFK's? I suppose you don't imply that my bows are so good to penetrate your "rusty" shield. Or maybe you want to compare the EFK's attack with your guards defense... I would love to see that.
where did other factions get extra recruits? necros at level 11 not a single extra recruit also.........
dispersion spell is weak now after 2nd update...
it requires 10 manna... still useless....
for 30:
Dont try to disprive knights of their unique racial abilitiy. So let's cover the ground right now and get it out of our system.
Or maybe you want to compare
lol Yes i do. I want to compare the recruits with your EFKs.))
EFKs are 2 tier and guards are 3 tier. Don't try to compare them. ;-)
I guess people misunderstood the term "BALANCE"

When something is greater and something is lesser . . . When you "BALANCE" you dont make the lesser one greater and the greater one greater too . . . . you actually lessen it.
"The strongest faction is always the one you are not."
-sorry, I forgot who always says that.


I think it's Pang!
Well I am playing DE and Knight and have tried Comander quest with DE 2 times,... absolutely no way to win,... change to Knight and won on first try,.. for me seems Knights are really strong compare with others.
I found also Knight talents was really cheaper before first update, but also DE tales has become more expensive after first update, and Shrews have loose his great advantage on new thieves map. But seems all are more balanced now,.. at least for my POV
"The strongest faction is always the one you are not."

Pang or Kotrin! One of them said that! ;)

@36

In your DE battles, it's like you charged first, which made you vulnerable to melee damage on the opponents first turn but in the Knight battle, if you see, you played defensive first, as a result the opponent could not launch a picture perfect melee attack on you. I guess thats the reason why you won! :D
Well his shrews was faster than mines,.. playing defensive or ofensive will means loose of my shrews on first attemp.... but maybe really that point the difference,.. have not tried on that way ;-)
"The strongest faction is always the one you are not."

Pang or Kotrin! One of them said that! ;)


Actually, it's:
Any faction can be the best; BUT definitely not the one you are playing now ;) -Pang (I think) https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1881246&page=1#399204
Then again, Kotrin could have said that and Pang could have quoted it.

And I don't think knights are overpowered. In fact, I think they're underpowered. But that could just be because I'm a wizard =D
While I hear that other factions got troops
didn't check the tal's but no increase in units for wiz (dunno bout elf's yet)
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