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Korzika, I suggest you to have a little more respect
they spit in my face, and you ask me to respect them? i'll check your tourney battles too, and maybe i'll respect you, maybe not. it's up to you, not me. respect is something you need to deserve, you cannot ask for it.
I'm also surprised that mods didn't ban you for your complain against the so called "cheaters"
what are you talking about? ban me from forum for what is written on my profile?
ok, to be constructive and finally on topic:
Blindfold battle, no two members belonging to the same MC, and you still count as being in the same MC if you left it less than one month ago.
that's good enough | Blindfold battle, no two members belonging to the same MC, and you still count as being in the same MC if you left it less than one month ago.
People can team up even if they don't belong to the same clan.
Blindfold battles are never 'fair' in the sense that the best player would win. The winner will be the one who avoids getting attacked, and to do that you have to be either feigning weakness or have allies. This tournament isn't created to determine who the best players/clans on the server is, it's created to get us to buy/use expensive arts and gain experience so there will be a larger player base for the high levels.
My suggestion is to have more tournaments/events, and have low or no price pools for the 'unfair' ones. Most players will still feel a tournament like this one is fun to play in, and if there are tournaments more often, those who feel the tournament characteristics are not to their liking can just skip participating and wait for the next one. | believe it or not elite warriors still get teamed up on contrary to what everyone says in the forums still, teaming up together is just a way to avoid this (as it's no fun if we just don't team up and then just get ganked ourselves)
i am glad you're having fun in seeing 40 year old guy and his friends teaming up against kids (i won't mention any names in order to avoid banning). anyway, for me it is no fun. shame on you! | People can team up even if they don't belong to the same clan.
Of course they can. It's part of the game! 2 people rushing to kill a third, then at the last moment one becomes a traitor and stab his ally in the back, everyone gets damaged and who-hates-me-who-likes-me game leads the battle to a close finish among exhausted warriors, someone sacrificing his chances of victory just because he wants to finish off the traitor... THAT'S the fun of blindfold! ^_^
And that's 100% conflicting with pre-battle arrangements like "All EW people kill the rest and share 6-players battle loot". Sorry, no fun in that, only shame.
My opinion as a clan leader:
Not only these pre-battle arrangements are despicable (albeit legit, rule and morale being two different things) but:
1) EW example spilled to other clans; and I'm glad WGW didn't at the moment, I would not be able to see my face in a mirror if I ever behaved so badly.
2) EW went as far as to leave their clan temporarily to gain EVEN more control over blindfold battles!!
If AT LEAST people had left the military clan to join more group battles and play them fairly. It could have been odd but understandable. But NO, with some Skype help, it was just to abuse the system even more! Shame on all EW members falling for such foul tricks, and shame to all people defending their clan mates so blindly!
If I were to detect such behavior among members of *my* military clan, they'd be kicked out the next day.
I love Blindfold battles so much... And you turned them into a pitiful parody.
Administration won't punish you, but your reputation is now settled. | Korzika, you are spitting sentences everywhere around, don't knowing the real thing.
First of all, not all the people in the EW have 40 years old, and not all the people who suffered from this not-demonstrated way of teaming up are 12 years old.
Second, I suffered your same thing in 3 or 4 fights, don't remember now. But i don't think they planned to wipe me out since the very beginning, it think it was just the natural course of the battle.
I've finished all my battles now, and i was lucky to be ignored in most of my fight, to keep my troops alive for the great part of the match. Or I was lucky to find low player like GardenCity near me, the only wizard I have seen so far with amulet of luck and 11 spellpower. Easy to wipe out.
Respect is earned, sure, but what respect do you pretend to have if you keep to attack everyone from EW? And i keep to say it, it's easy to insult someone in front of the monitor, at your home.
By the way, on topic: 3 Vs 3 battle, 1 point to the winners, 0 to the losers. Casual team, or maybe team always different. | Kotrin, my opinion as a player:
I was take in the middle by two EFL people in my third battle, in the first day of the tournament. Not EW, EFL. But I didn't think they were a team, I thought that they were temporarily allied. In one of my other battles I was temporarily allied with a knight against a wizard, and i came in his range without the fear of a backstab. We didn't know each others, but we have understood our feelings. sometimes happen, sometimes no.
What the people have to think about this battle, for example?
https://www.lordswm.com/war.php?warid=485154535
No Elite Warriors involved in the "combine", so maybe no one will be disgusted. Or maybe was oly a casual thing, who knows?
I was crucified by GardenCity, who even make a broadcast of my last match. Funny. I will not explain here every match, nor my strategies, until the end of the tournament. But i saw that the great part of the players simple don't know how to play these battle. It's a psicological issue, more than a strategic one. | #25
don't hide behind the clan, there are still some players in it that i respect. and when did i mention EW? i actually did once, when i defended your clan saying that there are many honest players there that don't deserve slandering, and that there are many players outside it that do deserve it. i think i made a mistake when i said many, but i still stick to it.. for now. | don't hide players that do team up based on clan membership behind those who still have reputation from your clan
just a correction there..
People are just too obsessed with gold after these recent changes
you think this is all because of gold??? it's principal and ethics, and not some virtual gold. | I'm not hiding behind something, otherwise i won't be here. Maybe you are wrong when you said many, maybe you're wrong when you'll said "a few". I don't know.
By the way, if you plan to have a censor life in this game, maybe you have to check EVERY combat log, not only the EW members log (and this is referred also to GardenCity). And you will still don't know who is a "cheater" (which is not exact, but.. well, lets go on...), or who is not.
But I'm sure that you something better in your life, isn't true? | But I'm sure that you something better in your life, isn't true?
it's true, but i will take my time and check everything when i can.
also i made a correction to don't hide behind the clan
---> wrong meaning
i meant
don't hide players that do team up based on clan membership behind those who still have reputation from your clan | Very well. But please, think about the dynamic of every single battle, try to imagine why someone do something, don't start to watch something thinking:
"Oh my god, i must find the teamers, I must find them!!!"
Look at the dynamic of every single movement, look at the reason behind it. Try to use psicology, instead of fire and pitchfork. Maybe you will find that cheaters are very few. | for Luckas:
like helping Gyver 2x and helping keepp once in first half of your tourney battles aren't enough for me to decide. do i need to watch it slowly again? so, why did you help them? certainly not because they're clan mates! certainly, you had no idea who they were. you were just too afraid of barbarians.
if you think i will leave you people alone, you're wrong. i will find any excuse to remind you of how morally inferior you are!
I would not be able to see my face in a mirror if I ever behaved so badly
i feel exactly the same way!
on topic:
punish people that were teaming up. no prize if they won, and every player that did team up with his/her clan mates pays at least 20k to the empire. if you want a fair blindfold tourney next time, punish them! | for Korzika:
The empire have bend down already, they wont get punished, empire took the easy road and put all that legal. Too bad. I would have liked to see all the whining on the boards, that would have been so fun to read | | Korzika, post here the link to the battle, and I will comment it. That's the only thing i can do for your needs of dirty in everything. | #33
this is ideas and suggestions forum section, isn't it.. i am suggesting :)
#34
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485045966
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485071628
https://www.lordswm.com/warlog.php?warid=485101683
here you go.. | But I didn't think they were a team, I thought that they were temporarily allied. In one of my other battles I was temporarily allied with a knight against a wizard, and i came in his range without the fear of a backstab. We didn't know each others, but we have understood our feelings. sometimes happen, sometimes no.
Dear Luckas,
Just responding to your post, and not you personally.
You STILL don't get it, do you? Look at your own post, and then compare it with 2 FACTS (not assumptions, not accusations, and definitely not 'maybe' like your post) that took place.
1) On the very first day of this tourney, EW player openly admitted that she/he teamed up with his/her clan mate right from the start of a battle to end (as clear a prearranged/staged battle as the definition goes) after I asked her why the 2 of them never attacked each other from START TO FINISH (prearranged since no way to see who your clan mates are unless you know the identity before the battle started). The reply was -
sorry, but we're from elite warrior playing together :)
Nothing 'maybe' about this.
2) After which, the leader of the clan came to the forums and openly says,
Every players play by their character, i'm proud of aru that he doesn't backstabb ally to win and especially clanmate.
And here's the icing on top of the cake -
After posting the above just a day earlier, to defend her clan member (who openly admitted she teamed up with another EW member from the start in case you forgot), the clan leader then posted this on another thread -
And there's no proof that we have team up together to win this tournament either. All of this is just assumption being made by all of the players. And as for EW?
We just want to play some tournament battles, that's all. We're being accused of something we haven't done, does that make sense?
Feel free to hate us, but don't accuse us of something we haven't done, that's the bottomline.
"no proof"? "assumption"? "we're being accused of something we haven't done"? "Does that make sense"?
Seriously? OF COURSE it doesn't make sense when the clan leader forgot her own member admitted she knows her clan mate and teamed up with him even BEFORE the battle started, and that she was defending her teaming and her clan's action 24 hours earlier!. I mean.. SERIOUSLY.
Like I said, don't get me started on your leader, PLEASE. I really can go on.. | staged battle as the definition goes
Are you sure about the staged battle definition here? | prearranged/staged battle as the definition goes
noticed the prearranged/ before the word 'staged'. = Either or. :p
On hindsight, you are right. Just 'prearranged' would have put across what I'm trying to say. :) | Are you sure about the staged battle definition here?
what does it matter? it's not about details, it's about this whole server waiting for over a year for the 2nd blindfold tourney, and a bunch of selfish, immoral people ruining it. even if it's LEGAL! i don't care, alright.
call it a bad sportsmanship, because that's what it is | This whole thing isnt really only EW related so you could leave the tight grasp off this clan. :-)
https://www.lordswm.com/pl_warlog.php?id=4317263 |
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