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AuthorWhy do you think minimum AP for battle is bad for this game?
to Kotrin:
2. Don't argue and don't make any comment to other's post. If you agree with someone's post, quote his/her statement.
I ever gave suggestions for the Duels, Group Battles and Tourneys about Arts and I DO NOT AGREE with minimum AP for any battles ..

That should be :
Every inisiator for any Group battles and duels have options to choose whether a battle should be NO ARTS or with arts, if with arts then he can write the min and max AP (max AP could be UNLIMITED) .. If the inisiator do not fill the battles requirements (exp : with arts in no arts battle or the AP is lack, tec.) then the game automatically cannot be created.

The AP in hunting is not good I think, coz we are FORCED to wear some arts in some huntings that could be finished EASILY without arts ..

[ TO ADMIN ] : the repairing cost for the arts should be decreased by 50% I think if the AP is still implemented in huntings.

Best regards,

Randhy
I haven't read all said above but I will speak my mind anyway, even if it's already there.

I don't agree with the forced AP rule for a couple of reasons...

1. The idea that noone goes to battle unarmed doesn't really apply, since the hero is not actually a fighter but a commander. That would be valid if the hero was actually active in the battlefield fighting and not on the side giving orders.

2. Forcing AP will give a really huge advantage to players with a lot of time on their hands and will make the game almost unplayable to those that will only log in once in a while for the thrill of a battle.

3. Noone in their right mind would, for example, try to kill a fly with a shotgun, so why would a hero use arts in a very easy hunt?
each faction has their own advantages and disadvantages
An advantage of the elf and wizard is hunting with a good racial skill
I dont understant why they try to eliminate this
Now you get "unbalanced" factions
Because its much harder to reach a high faction skill after the update, and what is an wizard with a low faction skill?
Its almost useless!
I agree with minimal AP in group battles, even there's a problem when u are character with fresh reached level, it's expensive to play art battles and me serious opponent.

Players that started to play this game before has advantage, cos they have better skill point already 'earned'. And many of them have no more economic problems, as I do. :)

P.S.: Roulette is an easy way to get broken down.
I disagree with the forced AP of two reasons...

1. Wizards.
They already have an cost that is above the normal, mini-arts.
Had I been playing anything else, I prolly wouldnt have noticed that problem.
But the cost of those arts are rather high, and they dont need more costs.
Wizards without mini-arts realy isnt as good as other factions.

2. What it is the point of forced AP?
Fixing economy, is what is argued as the reason.
I simply don't belive that it will fix economy.
It will help. Selling burned out old artifacts infuses money into the game, agreed. But repairing cheap hunter-sets or other items doesnt.
Kiaune makes a point, if all hunts are red, you need arts anyway.
no doubt, min AP for PvP is good. but it might too harsh for hunt.

look, not all of us will always sit in front the screen to play. some of us might just log in, enroll job, hunt, maybe 1 PvP fight and off....
Arts in duel and grup battles are really nice and welcome, but in hunts i'm not agree with this minim AP !
well i think that admins ahould have placed an opton in group battles that for players who want to do art but limited battles to write a max amount of AP but this is nonsense how can we use arts in all battles there should be evne no art battles it is fun too

Hope admins take in consideration my opinion thnx : )))
I always struggled with gold, even when I have never used arts so far (cept like 10 times maybe) and now I have to have 8AP MINIMUM for every fight I do, that's just going to make it harder and harder
I think it should be this way :

For Hunts :-

U can decide wat u want (whether u want to wear arts) or not

For PvP :-

U shld mandatorily wear arts .

that's all wat i think
This is really good. It will boost our economy, because people will buy arts.
To force AP in combats will give no longer fun .. coz HONESTLY sometimes we do not want to play in arts, just no arts or specify the min and max AP ..

Best regards,

Randhy
This is really good. It will boost our economy, because people will buy arts.
if they buy them from the artefact shop, nothing happens to the economy....
Minimum AP for PvP battle is kind of wasting money,no more "no arts" battle for people who don't have so much money.

Minimum AP against AI is ridiculous ,player will bring arts when combat look hard, but why players need to wear arts even fighting easy battle?
For example, lv 7 player against farmer monster[0] with less than 2000 hp,who need arts?
yeeaahh against the van of wiz level 0 - 13 .. no need arts .. that wastes the durabilities .. hehe .. they are easy to slay, right ??
look, you need art to balance the faction strength. that's why i agree forced AP on PvP

but, in hunt assist, who the hell wanna spend art?

example: a lv7 elf have to equip full art to kill 14 titans, but the reward only 64 golds.

the reward cant even cover back the repair cost.

good, perhaps you will telling me enroll more job and stop hunting. then, what's the point to adjust the exp and skill point for hunt and PvP. it just forced people to play even slower since you need to spend more time to get gold for consume those artifacts
for Kush:
People who agree with minimum AP for battle, please don't post here.

Minimum AP is terrible thing, its killing wizards way of playing this game and If anyone claims, that from now you cant win hunt without arts, he is liar or cant play this game, because I can hunt without arts...

How this rule will influence my economy and many other people:
https://www.lordswm.com/forum_messages.php?tid=1842739&page=17#66509
this game become not free any more, without real money is very difficult to play
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