| Author | Dark Elves faction topic |
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DE is a faction that requires lots of skill. :)
Personally, i am full of admiration for shrews and poisoners. They rock~ :D |
| about this useless magic piercing, can we use magic to those who are immune? i mean such as using delay to golem, or using lightning to garg. i've tried using delay to golem but it never succeed. Am i unlucky at that time or it can't be pierced? |
| No it can't be pierced. We should have it though but even our horrible racial ability has more limitations the other factions. |
oh well, i guess i don't make a mistake calling that as useless magic piercing then.
"Dark elves have a unique ability to inflict extra damage with magic to creatures that have magic shield, and even pierce through magic proof and immunity. Damage dealt depends on hero's Dark elf skill level."
in about the game it says that it can pierce through immunity. So can this be considered as a bug? |
| No since delay is no dmg spell, |
Piercing the elemental immunities is possible.
See this combat for example.
http://www.heroeswm.com/warlog.php?lt=-1&warid=3225688
Enchanted gargoyles get damage from a lightning spell. |
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lightning is an "air" spell, enchanted garg is not immune against air spells |
| but they are explicit immune to lightning |
| how should i lay out my troops i have no poisoners |
step u can get poisoners with diamonds i think ... but u have to donate some euros to this game developers ...
But i have to say that dark elves are strong especially rogues and also the lizards always give me troubles esp. to my bowmen and to my swords .. but not to my grifss .. coz they have unlimited retaliation ... |
stephor get as many minos and lizard as you can then split rouges in almost equal stacks.
your griffs will be introuble if the lizard take a full run and gets luck. i did one once and killed 11 griffs.
(I was trying out attack bulid) |
| Level 5 skill, 3 knight. Personally i believe the dark elf faction skill of magic piercing is underpowered. At lower levels it only benefits against barbarians, and those with one of the elemental protection cloaks. And I don't think anyone can get magic dmg reduction from talents until level 6 or 7. As such I believe that lower level dark elves need a better racial, and possibly at higher levels, though I do not have any experience there. |
i must say that many people underestimate DE's. all it takes is some skill and I can beat most other races. i say most as i haven't fought all races 1 on 1 yet.
as for their faction skill...i agree that it is underpowered now...but later when we find people making use of magic protection, i think we'll begin thinking otherwise. |
to narzic:
i see that u r at level 3 when you wrote that. Level 3-4 DE is good. My 1st faction is demon but when i level up to 3 i see that DE is very good, so i change to DE. But at level 5 i begin to regret it.
At higher level racial skill become more important, because other people's skill faction increase. But for DE, increase or decrease brings no real effect except the bonus for troops, but all other faction also have bonus for troops.
But yes i agree that to use DE need more skill than other faction as it is hard to play |
People underestimate Des for their low numbers. The thing is take out the rouges/shrews and then the lizards the rest of the troops are practically useless. mino too slow, hydras too slow. Poisoner/Bandit's range sucks. The only thing we can rely on is shrews and lizards. in high level shrews get taken out by crossbow in 1 shot.
Admins: if your not ganna change de's faction skill then atleast make it what it should be be able to pierce the immunitys and DEAL EXTRA MAGIC DAMAGE. |
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totally agree. So it seems that DE lack both troops and skills
also, the interesting thing is that DE faction skill can't reach 100% magic piercing. Racial is limited to 9. Rate of piercing through magic resistances and immunity: 10%+8%*Dark elf skill level which means at the highest racial only reach 10+8x9=10+72=82%. How nice. |
| piercing + Elemental call can be quit effective against magic resistance |
| ............ elemental call sucks. it guarentees you finish all your mana before the battle ends so don't use it. |
but it is true that elemental call is great.
But erudition costs 10 for DE, so it is too much if we want to have intellect talent. And as i have posted before, offense costs 7 but chaos costs 9, and erudition 10. So which one is better? Become a Fighter or a Magician? |
well, dark elves, it is my favorite faction, but i see a lot of ppl making wrong assumptions.
lvl 1 -4 is a breeze for every dark elf i guess,
starting lvl 5 it gets difficult, but till ye get hydras, the strength of a dark elf is NOT the rogues or lizzies, it is a big stack of minotaurs instead.
if ye combine those with a nice stack of poisoners (forget about shooting with them, they are to melee, at most a shot or 2 at the beginning, or in a goup battle if your side has the range superiority, then by all means, finish their (limited) ammo.
the dark elf racial skill is not as bad as ppl make it out for, but combine the piercing faction skill with the might build they use, sure, if ye do not use magic, piercing is useless, however, that is yer own fault then, not a game fault.
i like using magic thou, and found piercing to be quite usefull in full arts fights, as for the skills i use for magic, it is dark magic all the way, the ability to reduce enemy usefullness with delay and curse is more important than doing a 100 dmge to a 3000 hp army, and the damage ye can do with a mass poison is immense |
