| Author | Wizardry costs most Talent points for Wizards. |
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for samlonewolf:
Ehm.. What do you call shame? |
Geblehan because then in the new faction you have 0 faction points and are inferior to everybody.
@aravil in the example fight the human is a noob and human is also one of the beatable classes for 1v1 with wizard. |
for Wumzuk:
human is also one of the beatable classes for 1v1 with wizard. Then, who is unbeatable?) |
In this case magi have higher initiative than bowmen - thats why they win.
no race is unbeatable but alltogether wizards are most beatable by far!
in group battle magis get assisinated before they have a turn, due to their low life. and then what you cant left? only bullshit units.
have you ever seen golems and minotaurs duel each other? or gargoyles and forest keepers? or even gargoyles and wolf riders?
I KNOW i have magic arrows, but all other factions, except barbarians can do equally strong magic. or on the other hand just attack and/or defense which is also powerful and i dont have it. |
In this case magi have higher initiative than bowmen - thats why they win. don't forget about griffins and powerfull stack of swordsmen.. bowmens aren't very dangerous
in group battle magis get assisinated before they have a turn, due to their low life. so what? use mini-artifacts for initiative or experience or double mini-artifacts with both effects
I KNOW i have magic arrows, but all other factions, except barbarians can do equally strong magic. or on the other hand just attack and/or defense which is also powerful and i dont have it.
1. Wizards.. that word says everything - our main power (until 10 level) is magic. We need to use magic as long as we can.. What we need to do this? We need our units live long.. So.. we need to create mini-artifacts.. and when all units have full mini-artifacts, then wizards are very powerfull.. Wizards can cast a lot.. and units with full mini-artifacts can deal a lot of damage.. |
@aravil
all ranged is dangerous for magi.
i know and understand what else you say and i use these strategies often. but overall we lose most fights due to unbalance its perfectly obvious.
i dont know how strong i would be with enough money for miniarts AND normal artifacts - maybe then i would have a change. but still the need of gold is unbalanced then!!
but right know i cant afford neither mini-arts nor normal arts and all my hunts are RED, so i cant hunt any more without leveling up, and i cant level up without getting money from hunts for mini artifacts! this is a dead-end.
maybe i should just do only labor for 2 month is that how the developers intended this game to be like? i doubt. therefore - i love the game - but things few things should be optimized. no game can be balanced completely, but the balance of this game could be improved quite well.
and i know that the wizards are supposed to have more money due to their extra damage vs neutral creatures. but it doesn't work, its not enough to play a fair game.
(i dont take assists because the lose of wizard skill points tehre will make me even weaker in future battles) |
for Wumzuk:
I can tell you, what are your problems:
- you very often fought in group combats 3 vs 3, it's bad - you received exp, but little skillpoints
- you hunted very little..
- upgrade of gremlins isn't very usefull..
normally, when a wizard receives 5 level, he has 4 level of skillpoint or better 5..
so you should hunt and fight in everyone for oneself..
but overall we lose most fights due to unbalance its perfectly obvious.
Look my combat log:
on 3-4 levels I won a lot of everyone for oneself battles.. on 5 level I won many battles also.. and I often defeated elfs in duels.. |
like i said i cant hunt any more because the monster are too strong. i am discarding them but meet just the same again.
i see in your combat log that you lose very often. i dont blame you
thanks for advices, i didn't know that engineers ain'T worth the money compared to artifacts - i thought it might pay off. i like to try out things myself :)
but maybe they are better than golems - golems only stand around and wait for their turns all day.
after all this forth and back i still have kind of the same oponion and i just wonder what everybody else and especially the developers think about it.
When i play my little ELF i win twice as often as with this Wizard. it feels like - ugh - why am i suddenly winning?
greets Wumtog |
| moreover i think the battle of kusika are rather pointless (he has to fly away and just tries to survive, defending, to achieve more turns of his hero to use magic) - hmmm is that a game? fly away and cast lightnings? (i dont blame him) |
| one more thing aravil apreciate your modesty about your own faction. :) |
i see in your combat log that you lose very often. i dont blame you on 3-4 level I had more loses than wins in PvP because I whanted to receive skillpoints, not exp.. but on 5 level I had more wins in PvP than loses
but maybe they are better than golems - golems only stand around and wait for their turns all day. upgrade of gremlins have only 6 lifes.. and golems - 18.. golems live longer..
moreover i think the battle of kusika are rather pointless (he has to fly away and just tries to survive, defending, to achieve more turns of his hero to use magic) - hmmm is that a game? fly away and cast lightnings? (i dont blame him) This is a great strategy.. On 10 level wizard can become batle mage and use in battles mass Holy magic.. Then all army attacks as armies of other fractions |
| But Goblehan you like to be knight as you wrote and i like to be wizard |
omg avaril think about it! the wizard will use holy magic to become equal with elf. what if elf uses holy magic? come on, i like that you answer to me, but think ! :D
i KNOW its a great strategy to fly away and shoot lighnings, but that was not my point!! aargh D= |
omg avaril think about it! the wizard will use holy magic to become equal with elf. what if elf uses holy magic? come on, i like that you answer to me, but think !
1. Wizard will be more powerfull than almost any enemy
2. Wizard on 10 level will have ALL possible spells of holy magic.. but elf - not |
| wizard cant defeat neutral creatures with indirect damage skill. |
Back to topic:
Why do Wizards need 12 talent points to improve their lightning spell level?
do you agree with this?
i don'T wanna know whats better to chose, i know how to play!! I'm talking about changing things
greets |
